Tuesday, August 21, 2012

August 20, 2012: Moffitt Visit One



WARNING: Technical, icky, and personal information below. Also this is a very long document.
 Enter with care!

Sandy and I went to Tampa yesterday, and visited with Dr. Sotomayor, The Wizard Of Mantle Cell. Will save editorial comments on the inefficiencies of the Medical Machine until another post, and focus on the information we gained. We also met with a couple of other specialists and I had one procedure done.

First, it’s not a given that what I have is relapsed Mantle Cell. Dr. Levine had indicated there was a chance this was Diffuse Large B Cell, not MCL. Dr. Sotomayor feels highly sure it’s MCL, but says there is a chance it’s something else. He mentioned, for example, Follicular lymphoma. Also, the fact I was in remission for 6 years is highly encouraging, and there’s a chance this could be what’s called “indolent” lymphoma (as opposed to “aggressive”). Often, for indolent lymphomas, the “watchful waiting” approach is best, delaying treatment months or years until its necessary. 

Short and not too happy message here: last time, we swung for the fence and went for a cure, for this pretty much incurable disease. Well, guess what. No cure. The rest of this post is better news, though.

To that end, we knew a biopsy was in the plan. We had figured it would be an excisional type, meaning surgery to remove a node for analysis. Instead, or in addition, today they did a needle biopsy. Just what it sounds like, using a big syringe to remove fluid from a node, in this case from the pelvic area. One more encouraging note: while CT scans showed lots of affected internal nodes, all 4 doctors that felt around couldn’t find any in my neck, shoulders, or underarms big enough to even biopsy. We take that to mean my case is much less advanced than last time, which just has to be a good thing. There’s still a school of thought among me and my fellow optimists that this isn’t cancer at all, but rather some sort of infection. This type of biopsy doesn’t always produce verifiable results, but is so much less intrusive it’s worth a shot. If it doesn’t prove anything, it’s on to the surgical verification.

Next, assuming it is (and most probably, is) MCL. There are many more options than we had last time. Here are the major “branches” on the treatment tree. Dr. Sotomayor is very visual, always draws pictures and diagrams for us. Unfortunately, his handwriting makes mine look lucid, so there was a lot of head scratching and internet searching last night to recover what he’d written.

Branch 1 – Standard Of Care: Bendamustine + Rituxan, followed by 2 years of maintenance Rituxan.

This is the default treatment. He thinks there is a significant chance it would put me back in remission and keep me there 4-6 years. All the research we’ve done, and comments by most doctors, have this as a pretty sure thing. He isn’t quite that ready to commit. He said 40-60% chance of complete remission, else a good chance of partial remission. Treatment is milder than what I had before. This would be administered by my home oncologist, Dr. Levine. 4 to 6 cycles, 3 to 4 weeks apart for the Bendamustine.

Branch 2 – Clinical Trials

Understand, with cancer a clinical trial isn’t one of those double blind things where some people get the medicine, and some get nothing. In cancer, you either get one treatment or the other, and you know what you’re getting. They just compare groups of patients for who has better results. Most get the Standard of Care, volunteers get the trial treatment. There are also different levels of trials, usually called Phase 1, 2, and 3. Phase 1 are early, Phase 3 pretty mature. Most research comes out of Germany, moves west to the UK, Canada, then the U.S. So by the time a trial is here, it’s quite mature and well understood, just not FDA approved (possibly) or recognized as Standard of Care by insurance companies.

There are two he recommended we investigate, both Velcade plus something. 


The other is (we think) Velcade plus dexamethadone.

These two, he says, are very promising. A down side would be that I’d need to have a lot of the work done at Moffitt, involving a lot of driving. We are going to get a call from the Clinical Trial coordinator to have a long discussion about these options.

Branch 3 – RIT (radio immunology therapy): Epratuzumab

Waited a while to talk to a nice radiation oncologist. Can’t do this one, since I had Zevalyn last time. But, he said, if Dr. Sotomayor and Dr. Ayala (transplant doctor) agree, a similar compound, Bexxar, could be part of my basic treatment as a “retreatment.” We have a lot of research to do on this one. Zevalyn was hideously expensive. (one shot, the sticker price was $98,000; discounted to $54K by going without stereo and wheel covers). 

All of these still leave open the chance to do an allogeneic (donor) transplant, either right after I go back into remission, or possibly later. Again, lots of talking to do on this. I will have an appt with Dr. Ayala, my transplant doctor, shortly to discuss the pro’s and con’s and possibilities. This is something I chose to forego last time, in favor of the less risky autologous (self) transplant. I can’t do another autologous, so it’s up to a lot of factors whether I go for the allo transplant this time, or wait. (Overall historical average survival rate on an allogeneic transplant is 80-90%, so even though I’m young and healthy, that’s something to consider carefully)

We also talked about other possibilities we’d researched. I don’t qualify for a vaccine trial, because right now he’s only able to do this for first time (not relapsed) patients. We talked about dual antibody therapy (too new, not ready for prime time) and Hyper-CVAD (too harsh for my condition).

I signed up for a very interesting, and potentially very beneficial program called Total Cancer Care. This is a study where I donate extras of each sample (blood, biopsies, etc) and they do genetic analysis on them. Thousands of people are participating. The analysis is meant to contribute to broad research and long term development of treatments, BUT … if analysis shows something current would help me, that info would be fed back into my treatment plans. Unfortunately, results wouldn’t be available in the short term (something like a year) but very likely would be available to help with my next remission/relapse cycle in a few years. We could pay for the analysis to be done now, costing thousands of dollars not covered by insurance. More to think about.

Summarizing: 

We need to talk to the clinical trial coordinator, and transplant doctor. Need to get results of needle biopsy. Possibly need to get excisional biopsy done.  Then decide treatment plan.

Comforting thoughts: 

It is very feasible, that, using the Standard of Care treatment, I could take a not too severe treatment regime, go back into remission for another 5 years, then when I relapse again, either do the allo transplant, or ride the odds that two to five more technology cycles will have produced something even better, safer, and more like a cure.

For those of you with serious medical chops, or techno-nerd risk takers, here is “the” paper explaining what’s in the head of The Wizard. I wouldn’t go in here without a paddle. You’ve been warned.

Thanks for reading, and God Bless You for your prayers and encouragement!

KB

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